Mad Men season 3 ep 5
Feb. 17th, 2010 10:54 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
shapinglightBrief thoughts within, with spoilers
On the day when we get yet another reminder that the worst thing that ever happened to the Buffyverse was the day it fell into the hands of Comic Book Guy, thank everything there is to thank for Mad Men is all I can say.
Wonderful, wonderful ep - in which Betty gave birth while high on who knows what, Peter Campbell managed to come out of things looking pretty good compared to the old guys (Sterling and Cooper, in this instance), one of the Brits actually managed to half-redeem himself by not sneering at the idea of advertising aimed at African Americans, and we got a timely reminder in the Peggy/Don scene as to why the times they damn well should be a changin' etc etc.
Wonderful, wonderful stuff!
On the day when we get yet another reminder that the worst thing that ever happened to the Buffyverse was the day it fell into the hands of Comic Book Guy, thank everything there is to thank for Mad Men is all I can say.
Wonderful, wonderful ep - in which Betty gave birth while high on who knows what, Peter Campbell managed to come out of things looking pretty good compared to the old guys (Sterling and Cooper, in this instance), one of the Brits actually managed to half-redeem himself by not sneering at the idea of advertising aimed at African Americans, and we got a timely reminder in the Peggy/Don scene as to why the times they damn well should be a changin' etc etc.
Wonderful, wonderful stuff!
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Date: 2010-02-17 11:05 pm (UTC)Huh? What'd I miss?
And yes, Mad Men is incredible. The third season really brought a lot of interesting stuff...
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Date: 2010-02-17 11:06 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-02-17 11:14 pm (UTC)It's weird how I can find mass murderer Tony Soprano far more lovable and redeemable than a mere creep* like Pete Campbell.
*OK, possibly worse by s3, but no spoilers
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Date: 2010-02-17 11:23 pm (UTC)Horror and fascination is a good word. I think that's why I love Don's character so much. The complexity of it all. I think my favorite characters (in the sense of I love all their scenes) are Don, Joan and Roger. Roger just has the best lines ever.
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Date: 2010-02-17 11:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-17 11:28 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-18 12:43 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-18 12:51 am (UTC)I second this. Did something happen today?
And yes, Mad Men is incredible.
I second this, too.
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Date: 2010-02-18 01:26 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-18 05:37 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-18 10:21 am (UTC)Sublime television for adults. I always tape it and watch it on Thursday morning. It's a great way to start the day.
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Date: 2010-02-18 12:14 pm (UTC)Nothing at all important. Just Bill Willingham trashing various AtS characters.
The third season really brought a lot of interesting stuff...
It certainly has so far. I love it.
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Date: 2010-02-18 12:18 pm (UTC)Not really. It was just the stupid comics again. The Angel one this time.
It got on my nerves, though - enough that I was really grateful to Mad Men for providing a brilliant and much needed distraction.
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Date: 2010-02-18 12:18 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-02-18 12:21 pm (UTC):shudder: Strange days, they seem like now. S was watching with me (he usually doesn't bother) and we both watched the hospital scenes with a mixture of horror and amazement.
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Date: 2010-02-18 12:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-18 12:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-18 12:24 pm (UTC)Blimey, I'd never manage to get up early enough to watch a whole 50 minute program before work.
:is impressed:
I hope your roof is okay, btw? I saw your post yesterday but didn't have the chance to comment.
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Date: 2010-02-18 12:26 pm (UTC)Oh dear! And there was me thinking Pete was possibly improving.
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Date: 2010-02-18 12:32 pm (UTC)OK, now I'm curious.
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Date: 2010-02-18 12:37 pm (UTC)Or I might be so annoyed I can't be bothered. We'll see.
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Date: 2010-02-18 12:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-18 01:46 pm (UTC)My roof has been patched, but I wont know until I get home from work whether it has managed to stop the leak. I'm not optimistic.
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Date: 2010-02-18 02:21 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-18 02:42 pm (UTC)Points to icon for an example. Though for the portrayal of Spike as seen by B W to be more complete, I should have added certain male parts grown up to extraordinary dimensions.
And poor Illyria isn't better treated either. She/it/he wants baby from Connor (of course!)and politely asks the permission to Angel.
If you want more details go to IDW or Buffyforums or Slayalive sites (Angel n°30). The whole thing is of an abyssal stupidity and I'm not going to spend one cent on this.
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Date: 2010-02-18 02:44 pm (UTC)There is that. Plus, he idolises Draper.
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Date: 2010-02-18 02:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-02-18 02:46 pm (UTC):crosses fingers:
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Date: 2010-02-18 03:00 pm (UTC)But of course. She's a woman, after all (well, sort of), what else could she possibly want?
The thing about Spike regrowing his leg sounds hilarious, though. OK, it's clearly bad on a massively bad scale of bad craziness, but... it's nice to pretty much see the writer admit that he has no clue at all about the canon he's fanficcing.
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Date: 2010-02-18 03:07 pm (UTC)Or about the characters he's writing. Or very little.
I should reserve final judgement until I read the whole thing, but at the moment it looks like he's picked all Spike's worst character traits and amped them up to 11, while removing all his good ones. And then he's written Gunn in the exact same way.
As for the Illyria thing, I'd set Joan on him if I could. He'd be sorry then.
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Date: 2010-02-18 03:37 pm (UTC)The more I think about it... OK, I haven't even read the preview, so maybe it makes some sort of insane troll sense in context, but... ILLYRIA wants a baby. ILLYRIA?!? The ancient primordial God-King of the Long List Of Ways Of Being Infinitely Superior To Everything Else In This Or Any Dimension wants a baby?!? Are they trying to outdo the Kafka!Dawn arc in character assassination? Or did Willingham just look at her and go "Oh, she has tits, let's just drag out the standard Childless Woman 1A arc so I won't have to write her out"?
Joan is too good for him. I have a better idea. No spoilers, but after you've watched the next episode of Mad Men, you'll know. *nudges*
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Date: 2010-02-18 03:49 pm (UTC)I suspect so. I told you about the wedding in his Fables series where the bride promised to obey the bridegroom, didn't I? Anyway, more later, if I have time, because it is unfair to say more when I haven't read the whole thing.
Joan is too good for him.
Goes without saying. She's too good for all of them.
I have a better idea. No spoilers, but after you've watched the next episode of Mad Men, you'll know. *nudges*
Ooh, now I'm intrigued. And damn, will be away most of next week so will have to catch up with Mad Men the following weekend. :grumble, grumble:
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Date: 2010-02-18 04:23 pm (UTC)I've kind of surprised myself how much I like Mad Men! :)
For me, the male bonding in the hospital was one of the highlights of this episode. And then later, when they passed each other in the corridor. Awkward!
I was laughing out loud to "Every job has its ups and downs". That line was deadpanned so well!
Peggy was great, yet again! It was a huge thing for her to ask for a raise. I loved that moment when she said to Don that he's got everything. There was so many layers to it, both from Peggy's pov and Don's. And the expression on Don's face spoke volumes...
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Date: 2010-02-18 09:13 pm (UTC)And now you've got me intrigued too! Is having seen Mad Men a requirement to understand?
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Date: 2010-02-18 09:41 pm (UTC)Not really, but it's a bit spoilery. I'll PM you, just don't read it if you don't want to be spoiled.
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Date: 2010-02-27 10:16 pm (UTC)Since you made it, there's been yet another wonderful episode. So glad you like the show. I think it's one of the best TV shows every made.
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Date: 2010-02-28 07:57 am (UTC)And I'd say, it was bloody brilliant! Literally...
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Date: 2010-03-01 11:11 am (UTC)Yep - and Joan proves she's definitely the person you want around in a crisis.