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Rather contrasting telly watching today.

Slight spoilers behind cut, should anyone need them except me, for season 1 of The Good Wife and the pilot episode of Supernatural. Not in the slightest bit profound.



I'm well into season 1 of The Good Wife now, and gone way past finding the Sainted Alicia annoying to liking her quite a lot. I also like Diane and Kalinda. The female characters in this show are just great, in fact. I'm even quite fond of Mrs Florick Snr. I like that the women in the show are all mature, some of them even more mature than me. :) Plus, beyond the case of the day, all the machinations behiind the scenes are completely fascinating. As I said before, US politicians and lawyers, as depicted in this show, are more macho than the toughest so-called maverick cop/lawyer in a Brit show, even when they're women. In fact, the only thing I don't like is that all the liberal judges in the show are either criminals or useless.

As for SPN, I haven't a lot to say so far, beyond, so people think these two boys are good looking? Very odd. Also, don't they ever put the lights on?

I know that female characters get a very poor lookin in this show. They're either evil, or dead, so I've read. So I suppose it starts as it means to go on.

Date: 2011-03-25 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bogwitch.livejournal.com
All I can say is that you must be blind! (though it took them a awhile to grow on me, in fact that goes for the whole show, it markedly improves during the middle of the season).

To be fair most characters end up dead.

Date: 2011-03-25 07:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ruuger
Yeah, the SPN boys aren't my type either :) But the main reason why I stopped watching it after the first season was that I need at least some decent female characters to enjoy a show (I've checked out a few episodes since then and liked them even less than S1 - the religious storylines and the juvenile humour just aren't my thing).

As for Good Wife, I like it but I'd like it a lot more if they killed off the husband and the love interest and just made it the Aliacia and Kalinda Show.

Date: 2011-03-25 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trepkos.livejournal.com
I'm still enjoying SPN; there are some very funny episodes amongst the angst and drama. And I enjoy yelling "Sam! Sammy!" in Dean's voice.

Date: 2011-03-25 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ningloreth.livejournal.com
so people think these two boys are good looking?

It's odd, isn't it? But I think that, in this situation, one of two things (or maybe both things) happen(s): they get more confident, and behave 'better looking', and we believe them, and/or we get used to them (like family) and see them through biased eyes.

There's a lot of talk about Dean's being misogynistic. Personally, I think the mismatch between his rather sweet looks and his laddish behaviour gives the character a bit more depth that you usually find in US TV heroes.

I also like Diane

So do I!

Have you encountered Gary Cole and Alan Cummings yet?

And what about Will?

Edited Date: 2011-03-25 07:24 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-03-25 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ningloreth.livejournal.com
Gary Cole and Alan Cummings appear towards the end of Season 1; Alan Cummings is also in Season 2...

Date: 2011-03-25 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] louise39.livejournal.com
Supernatural was a bit gory and I did not like the boys either but many say the show improves in later seasons. ::shrugs shoulders::

The Good Wife has Kalinda, Alicia and Diane -- and stories I can watch and enjoy. This is my weekly 'have-to-see' show.

Date: 2011-03-25 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hello-spikey.livejournal.com
I've watched all of Supernatural now - and there are good parts. I think Dean and Sam are parts of a good-looking guy - Dean has a pretty face and Sam has a pretty body.

But mostly I worry that Dean is leading people astray from the One True Path of Spike-worship!

Date: 2011-03-28 12:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hello-spikey.livejournal.com
YAY! Epic fanfic!!

We all win! :)

Date: 2011-03-25 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] willowgreen.livejournal.com
Here are the general rules about women on Supernatural:

1. Powerful women are evil.
2. Good women are weak.
3. Good women who show signs of being powerful, or powerful women who show signs of being good, either (a) are secretly evil or (b) must die as soon and as unpleasantly as possible. Or both.

That said, I came around to watching the show about two years ago and in some ways do enjoy it. But the way women are treated on it continues to piss me off.

Date: 2011-03-26 12:01 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] flake-sake.livejournal.com
I also love the female characters on the good wife, especially Diane.

On SPN: It took me a very long while(2 seasons) to really get into it and I still have issues (the women or the weird alien bimbo sex they want to sell as such), but it is a really good show in the end. It has incredibly funny moments and I like how the mythology builds up.

Date: 2011-03-26 04:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] flake-sake.livejournal.com
I fell in love with her in the ep where she gave up her chance of becoming a judge.

Yep, I loved that one too! I always love it when eps end on Diane laughing.

I've possibly read too much about its problematic way of dealing with female characters to ever become a fan.

I wouldn't really consider myself a fan, but more a casual watcher. I like it and it has its moments of brilliance but it also has such glaring faults that I could never look at it with fandom obsessiveness. It's a nice state to be in though, instead of feeling affected by every story choice they make, I'm just looking for shallow entertainment.

Date: 2011-03-28 12:30 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] snickfic
I haven't a lot to say so far, beyond, so people think these two boys are good looking?

Yes? Although I agree with [livejournal.com profile] ningloreth that a lot of it has to do with getting to know them as characters; I was never excited about either of the actors in stills but after a full season I think they're both pretty hot as the characters they play.

Then again, I'm told the best-looking of the bunch is their dad, and I can't see it. So.

As for the lights, no, I can't tell that they ever do put them on.

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