Game of Thrones, I Miss You!
Jun. 22nd, 2011 11:42 amI should be working on the next story in my Spike/Giles season 7 series (I'm posting one for
summer_of_giles in a week's time and need to get on with its sequel as quickly as possible, because it really wouldn't be fair to leave the three or so people who're going to read it hanging for too long), but I can't get my head around it yet.
The fact of the matter is, I want more Game of Thrones, and I want it now! :stomp:
Spoilers for the show behind cut
I could read the books, I suppose, but - silly though it may sound - I don't want to be spoilered for the show. The only TV show I've ever wanted to be spoilered for was BtVS, and that was only after Seeing Red.
I don't think I've been quite so in love with a show since the halcyon days of BtVS season 5, despite the annoyingly ubiquitous Roz. Okay, I will forever maintain that The Wire is the best TV series in the whole universe ever, and I do enjoy True Blood in all its OTT silliness, and BSG was a great show for most of its run, and Mad Men is still a great show, and I really enjoyed season 1 of Dexter, but this is the first time since BtVS/AtS I've felt that intense frustration and excitement you experience when you feel you need to know what happens next right now!
Ironically, as noted above, I could, if I read the books. But I think I want to see what happens next through the characters as interpreted by the actors in the show, who are those characters as far as I'm concerned. So I will have to wait. And just when I'd discovered some wonderful new icon makers too.
It's bizarre. There's still a part of me that thinks this kind of po-faced, high fantasy is faintly ridiculous and deserves to be made fun of (a la the Gandalf the Tartan sketch about LoTR in Dead Ringers), but the show was just so well done, so well acted, that I can't do that.
I was going to try and write a post about my favourite character and invite anyone who felt like it to do the same, but I find I can't do it - partly because I still can't quite decide which is my favourite character. So instead, I'm going to try and go for favourite scene. But that's horribly difficult too. So many great ones to choose from (though none featuring Roz, have to say), and I'm sure that when I rewatch I'll change my mind, but for now I'm going to go with the final scene of the finale. Daenyrys and the dragons.
What's yours?
The fact of the matter is, I want more Game of Thrones, and I want it now! :stomp:
Spoilers for the show behind cut
I could read the books, I suppose, but - silly though it may sound - I don't want to be spoilered for the show. The only TV show I've ever wanted to be spoilered for was BtVS, and that was only after Seeing Red.
I don't think I've been quite so in love with a show since the halcyon days of BtVS season 5, despite the annoyingly ubiquitous Roz. Okay, I will forever maintain that The Wire is the best TV series in the whole universe ever, and I do enjoy True Blood in all its OTT silliness, and BSG was a great show for most of its run, and Mad Men is still a great show, and I really enjoyed season 1 of Dexter, but this is the first time since BtVS/AtS I've felt that intense frustration and excitement you experience when you feel you need to know what happens next right now!
Ironically, as noted above, I could, if I read the books. But I think I want to see what happens next through the characters as interpreted by the actors in the show, who are those characters as far as I'm concerned. So I will have to wait. And just when I'd discovered some wonderful new icon makers too.
It's bizarre. There's still a part of me that thinks this kind of po-faced, high fantasy is faintly ridiculous and deserves to be made fun of (a la the Gandalf the Tartan sketch about LoTR in Dead Ringers), but the show was just so well done, so well acted, that I can't do that.
I was going to try and write a post about my favourite character and invite anyone who felt like it to do the same, but I find I can't do it - partly because I still can't quite decide which is my favourite character. So instead, I'm going to try and go for favourite scene. But that's horribly difficult too. So many great ones to choose from (though none featuring Roz, have to say), and I'm sure that when I rewatch I'll change my mind, but for now I'm going to go with the final scene of the finale. Daenyrys and the dragons.
What's yours?
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Date: 2011-06-22 10:52 am (UTC)With pizza!
I'll let you know what we think :-)
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Date: 2011-06-22 10:59 am (UTC):tries to use non-spoilery icon:
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Date: 2011-06-22 11:14 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-06-22 12:11 pm (UTC)(I haven't watched Game of Thrones yet, because high fantasy isn't really my thing, but I'll probably give it a try if and when it appears on TV here)
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Date: 2011-06-22 12:27 pm (UTC)I'm not sure. Doubtful, because it's based on a series of books, the ongoing story of which has got far beyond the point where the show ended. Fanfic based on what I've seen so far would probably get instantly whatever the G-o-T equivalent is of Jossed.
I fear I'm a one-trick pony where writing fanfic is concerned, but I'm sure that won't be true of everyone. It also wouldn't surprise me if the show spawned its own separate fandom, with its own fanon.
because high fantasy isn't really my thing
It isn't really mine either. I loved Tolkien and CS Lewis as a kid, but I'm not so keen on them now. I prefer my fantasy more culturally aware, like Ursula K Le Guin, or more humourous like Pratchett. I'd certainly never have dreamed of reading the books before seeing the show. However, I just loved it (apart from a few scenes featuring a particular character who I think got on everyone's nerves), which has taken me by surprise, but there you go.
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Date: 2011-06-22 12:22 pm (UTC)- The Lannister family breakfast after Bran's fall
- Arya's first "dancing lesson" with Syrio
- Dany warning her brother about the possible loss of his hands
- Robert's und Cersei's conversation about their marriage holding the realm together
- Catelyn seizing Tyrion at the inn
- Viserys getting his "crown"
- Ned confronting Cersei about her and Jamie and the kids or more specifically Cersei's respond to said confrontation
- "And then we will kill them all!"
- Sansa planning to push Joffrey of that building
- Varys and Littlefinger meeting under the iron throne
The final scene with the dragons was also gorgeous of course, but I think I'll pick the last scene on the Wall as my favourite. Mormont's speech was awesome, Jon made the right decision and watching all those men from the Night's Watch ride into the tunnel felt rather epic.
Honorable mentions goes to... Tyrion slapping his nephew. THIS GIF NEVER GETS OLD!!!
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Date: 2011-06-22 12:30 pm (UTC)You're right, you're right! Now I want to change my own favourite scene, dammit. I loved all the ones you mention, with the possible exception of the 'crowning' scene, which I couldn't actually watch. Could tell what was going to happen and decided I was better off not seeing it.
Honorable mentions goes to... Tyrion slapping his nephew. THIS GIF NEVER GETS OLD!!!
I have an icon of that, courtesy of the wonderful
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Date: 2011-06-22 12:49 pm (UTC)I can totally understand this. I've read the first book before GoT started and knew what was coming. I wasn't sure that I would be able to watch it, but when it actually happened the execution of that scene was just perfect in my opinion. Although I felt uncomfortable watching the atmosphere really got to me, therefore I like that scene probably more than I should.
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Date: 2011-06-22 12:44 pm (UTC)I am eagerly waiting for the next book which is due next month after a 6 year wait.
My fav bit, sorry can't choose.
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Date: 2011-06-22 01:31 pm (UTC)Quite understandable. I keep choosing and then changing my mind. :)
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Date: 2011-06-22 01:02 pm (UTC)- Syrio's last stand. "Not today."
- Dany rising from the soot and ashes
- Ned's death and the opening of the next episode
- Tyrion's two confession scenes - first the one in court, and then the one to Bron and Shae
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Date: 2011-06-22 01:34 pm (UTC)God, yes! That was a good one. I'd probably add Saepta Mordain's quietly dignified last stand to the mix too. And I love Tyrion's confession scenes. They were both brilliant.
Damn, we're really spoilt for choice, aren't we?
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Date: 2011-06-22 01:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-06-22 02:01 pm (UTC)Oh yes, but it could have been so different. Choose a different bunch of actors - your standard American network TV airbrushed, wrinkle-free mannequins, for instance - and it would never have held my interest. The cast is just amazing.
I hope the show goes on for many seasons, but if it doesn't, do you think you would want to read the novels just to find out what happens?)
Oh yes, definitely. I have to know now. I am patient, though. As long as I know I will find out eventually, I can wait and find out the way I want to. Ironically, from what I read, if the show does manage to run for five seasons or more, it will probably still end before GRRM manages to finish the last book. Or do you think the show will galvanise him into writing faster? It may have given him a new lease of life when dealing with the characters.
Another beautiful icon. Is it one of yours again? I do love the clarity.
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Date: 2011-06-22 02:25 pm (UTC)i do have a fave pairing tho - Jorrah and Dany. Unrequited love just melts me. *hugs you*
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Date: 2011-06-22 03:19 pm (UTC)We few, we happy few...
Actually, there are probably quite a lot of us.
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Date: 2011-06-22 05:05 pm (UTC)If it's any help... you probably couldn't. He's left book readers on a cliffhanger for 6 years. And, while the new book is coming out soon, I have every faith that it will end on a cliffhanger as well. :)
I'd have to say that book and show, Tyrion is my favorite character. Though I have many characters that I like a great deal such as Arya, Jon, Sam, Dany and even Sansa. I think that show Catelyn and show Robb are more enjoyable than in the books. And show Jorah is sexy! (Which is the actor because I didn't think of him that way in the books).
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Date: 2011-06-22 09:03 pm (UTC)No doubt. I'm hoping the show will give GRRM a new lease of life when it comes to writing these characters. I've read one interview with him and he seemed a bit bored of the whole thing. But seeing his story brought to life may change that. Also, the episode he wrote was one of the best in the whole series.
I'd have to say that book and show, Tyrion is my favorite character. Though I have many characters that I like a great deal such as Arya, Jon, Sam, Dany and even Sansa.
That's more or less my list at the moment, though of course I'd have to add Jorah to it. And Bronn. He's a scream.
And show Jorah is sexy! (Which is the actor because I didn't think of him that way in the books).
Yes, I've gathered from what people have said that Book Jorah's nickname is the Bear. Iain Glen isn't very bear-like. He's more of a slightly grizzled alsatian.
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Date: 2011-06-22 05:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-06-22 09:07 pm (UTC)I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks it's faintly ridiculous to love this show so much - yet I do
Me too. I even recognise it has a lot of fail-y elements, but I just don't care. I'll definitely be buying the series. It's a pity the box set probably won't come out until after Christmas. :(
Anyway, any series that has a finale of a naked woman covered in baby dragons is either potty or magnificent, and I'm going with the latter.
:) I agree Khal Drogo had a very nice chest, and also a very nice arse. I hope you enjoy the books. I might read the first one, but I'll wait on the others and see the show first.
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Date: 2011-06-22 07:43 pm (UTC)But this show now? In a way it's even better than the books (except for Roz who is not in the them). The books are brilliant but if anything the show fleshes them out. There was this scene with Mirri Maz Dur last episode, where she tells Dany about life being worth nothing when everything else is gone and in the books she seems just mean and cruel. But here she has this undertone of pity and Dany is just made of steel.
I guess the price for my favorite scene goes to tyrion for his speech at the Eeyrie and price for the best line goes to Bronn for "you wouldn't know him".
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Date: 2011-06-22 09:13 pm (UTC)I didn't know he was on LJ. Is he still, or has he gone now?
In a way it's even better than the books (except for Roz who is not in the them).
I haven't come across anyone yet who likes that character. I wonder if the showrunners think she's popular? Hell, she may be popular for all I know. Just not around here.
The books are brilliant but if anything the show fleshes them out. There was this scene with Mirri Maz Dur last episode, where she tells Dany about life being worth nothing when everything else is gone and in the books she seems just mean and cruel. But here she has this undertone of pity and Dany is just made of steel.
Yes, she is. It was what she did to Mirri Maz Dur that makes me uncertain about which way she might go now she's come into her own power. I felt sorry for the witch -no one deserves to die like that - though I understand why Dany wanted her dead.
the best line goes to Bronn for "you wouldn't know him".
Oh yes, that was priceless. Jerome Flynn is just so deadpan. He's hilarious. I also love Tywin saying to Jaime, "Go on, say something clever." But Tyrion gets most of the best lines.
I need a Tyrion/Bronn icon.
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Date: 2011-06-23 07:25 pm (UTC)I have to say that I disagree that the TV show did this better than the books; I think the same things come across from MMD in the book, with the additional bonus that it's not entirely clear that she's responsible for Drogo's death, because his wound is much worse to begin with plus, he ignores her medical advice and goes back to the Dothraki healer. So it was never clear to me from the books whether she simply saw an opportunity to avenge herself AFTER he contracted the infection that killed him, or whether she planned that from the beginning.
And I disagree that the show fleshes out all of the characters as well. Some of them it reduces (like Show!Ned) because a lot of the book narration is told through flashbacks. I think Ned is much less annoying self-righteous in the books, and much more well-rounded and fascinating because we see what he's actually thinking. And Littlefinger is FAR less obvious in his sleaziness which makes Ned's inexplicable trust in him a lot more easy to understand than it is on the show. Maybe the only character who I think gets a better shake on the show is Cersei. Everyone else is either less well-rounded or else they're about the same, really.
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Date: 2011-06-22 10:12 pm (UTC)My favourite character by far is Tyrion, but I also love so many others, including Arya, Bronn and Jorah. As to favourite scene? Hmm, there are so many to choose from! Almost anything with Tyrion would have to be in there, but I think if I had to choose one I'd go for the final scene on the wall. It was just so perfect and - as someone said above - incredibly epic.
I've decided I'm going to read the first book, but wait until after S2 airs before I read the second. Like you, I really don't want to spoil myself for this show. It's just too good!
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Date: 2011-06-23 10:57 am (UTC)I know! It seems an awful long way off.
I think Tyrion is the favourite of most people. He is, in most ways, the most sympathetic, moral character, but moral in a pragmatic way. Ned was moral and it got him killed and a lot of other people killed, and his daughters in a terrible situation.
but I think if I had to choose one I'd go for the final scene on the wall. It was just so perfect and - as someone said above - incredibly epic.
It was a wonderful scene. I keep changing my mind about which was my favourite. I really don't think I can choose after all. And I need to re-watch as soon as possible.
I've decided I'm going to read the first book, but wait until after S2 airs before I read the second. Like you, I really don't want to spoil myself for this show. It's just too good!
:) Maybe we should start an online reading group for the first book? I wonder if there's an edition with a TV tie-in cover?
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