The Good Wife season 4
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shapinglightOkay, I caved and bought the DVDs. I was near the end of season 3 and couldn't bear the thought of not having any more new episodes to watch.
Two episodes in now, and I see...
Spoilers behind cut, and please don't spoiler me for anything later.
....what those of you who said that Kalinda's story goes off the rails in season 4 were talking about. I hate this stuff with her nasty, abusive husband. What's more, I've just read a couple of articles online from when these episodes originally aired, and it seems like an awful lot of people felt the same. I think I also saw (while looking for info about the actors who plays judges on the show) a reference to an interview with the showrunners, in which they said they were shocked by how many people loathed the Kalinda/Nick story, because they thought it was wonderful.
Well, I'm shocked that they were shocked.
Anyway, I hate it. Firstly, because it's yet another very negative portrayal of a Brit character in the show (which makes two - the sole two there've been so far), and secondly because...well, it's just horrible. I don't care about this Nick. I don't believe that Kalinda still cares about him/is under his influence/whichever. Nothing that's been done with the character - Kalinda, that is - up to now has suggested that she would just go back to him rather than telling him to fuck off out of her life again.
She's too competent. The way she dealt with Nick's henchman showed that.
I suppose they're trying to say that she enjoys violent sexual relationships and can give as good as she gets? Well, okay. But...why? And what does it have to do with anything else in the show?
It's nasty, and unpleasant and - worst sin of all- actually quite boring.
I have sorta kinda spoilered myself and discovered that in this case audience reaction had a very swift effect on storyline. I also checked up on IMDB and was pleased to see that Marc Warren only appears in 8 episodes, all the early part of the season. Nothing against him as an actor, but thank f**k, is all I can say. I'm just looking forward to when Kalinda shoots him in the face (or whatever she does) and comes back to her senses.
I have a nasty feeling that, if they'd thought they could get away with it, Joss and Marti would have made the Buffy/Spike relationship in BtVS season 6 more like Kalinda/Nick. Glad they couldn't - have got away with it, that is.
Two episodes in now, and I see...
Spoilers behind cut, and please don't spoiler me for anything later.
....what those of you who said that Kalinda's story goes off the rails in season 4 were talking about. I hate this stuff with her nasty, abusive husband. What's more, I've just read a couple of articles online from when these episodes originally aired, and it seems like an awful lot of people felt the same. I think I also saw (while looking for info about the actors who plays judges on the show) a reference to an interview with the showrunners, in which they said they were shocked by how many people loathed the Kalinda/Nick story, because they thought it was wonderful.
Well, I'm shocked that they were shocked.
Anyway, I hate it. Firstly, because it's yet another very negative portrayal of a Brit character in the show (which makes two - the sole two there've been so far), and secondly because...well, it's just horrible. I don't care about this Nick. I don't believe that Kalinda still cares about him/is under his influence/whichever. Nothing that's been done with the character - Kalinda, that is - up to now has suggested that she would just go back to him rather than telling him to fuck off out of her life again.
She's too competent. The way she dealt with Nick's henchman showed that.
I suppose they're trying to say that she enjoys violent sexual relationships and can give as good as she gets? Well, okay. But...why? And what does it have to do with anything else in the show?
It's nasty, and unpleasant and - worst sin of all- actually quite boring.
I have sorta kinda spoilered myself and discovered that in this case audience reaction had a very swift effect on storyline. I also checked up on IMDB and was pleased to see that Marc Warren only appears in 8 episodes, all the early part of the season. Nothing against him as an actor, but thank f**k, is all I can say. I'm just looking forward to when Kalinda shoots him in the face (or whatever she does) and comes back to her senses.
I have a nasty feeling that, if they'd thought they could get away with it, Joss and Marti would have made the Buffy/Spike relationship in BtVS season 6 more like Kalinda/Nick. Glad they couldn't - have got away with it, that is.
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Date: 2013-11-18 03:23 am (UTC)The writers finally figured out that less Kalinda is more. (There's a few characters in television that you really shouldn't focus on too much or you'll ruin them. They are: Fonzi, Spike, Angel, Kalinda, and Omar). They need to keep a little mystery intact - because that's the appeal.
They were attempting to feed off and/or critique the 50 Shades of Grey hype. Thinking the audience would be into it. They weren't. The audience that was into 50 Shades, isn't into the Good Wife.
It was a huge mistake. It does go away. Rather abruptly actually. I've sort of forgotten all about it now. This season - S5 is so frigging amazing!
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Date: 2013-11-19 10:42 am (UTC)I can quite see why. It really is quite horrible. I have more thoughts brewing about the comparisons between this storyline and season 6 Spuffy which are making me quite grumpy. Those thoughts may appear on a flocked post. Even after all this time, I'm not prepared to discuss the AR on an open post.
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Date: 2013-11-20 01:33 am (UTC)The problem with it - is its portrayed a bit too...self-righteously and shallowly both in the Good Wife and in other television dramas.
You can see the writer standing on his/her soap box and sermonizing to the masses about oh those evil boddice ripper romances or oh those evil BDSM erotica ...and I start to roll my eyes, and think, honey? Get a grip. Sexual relationships are never that black and white, nor for that matter are human ones.
I'll say this about Buffy/Spike - it was not portrayed quite as black and white as Nick/Kalinda were and had a lot more layers and shades to it. Which is why it fascinated me. Buffy was an odd show, it kept jumping out of the box. The Good Wife is a great show, but it doesn't really ever jump out of the box. It colors within the lines - well except for the 5th Season, where they shake everything up.
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Date: 2013-11-20 11:26 am (UTC)I agree it's a much more conventional show than BtVS. There was no way they would ever do what they're doing with Kalinda and Nick using an established male character like Cary.
That is what made Buffy/Spike more interesting, though - that we knew both characters - and less self-righteous, no matter what Joss's intentions might have been. Plus, the power balance wasn't nearly so clear cut.