Game of Thrones Season 5 Ep 5 (the clueless about the books POV)

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Just watched this, and...

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...there were wa-ay too many Bolton scenes in this episode. Please, please, nice King Stannis, come and kill them all, including Ramsay's nasty girlfriend. Melisandre hasn't set anyone on fire lately, after all.

Maybe in the next episode?

Ah, who am I kidding? The Boltons will probably survive - or Ramsay will anyway. Probably, he'll contrive a way to kill his dad during the coming battle with Stannis, then dispose of poor Lady Bolton, and then he'll be free to make himself Lord Bolton and turn the entire North into Westeros's premier torture-friendly location.

Also, I am - as you might imagine - extremely unhappy about what's happened to Jorah (especially as I know it doesn't happen in the books - though apparently it happens to someone else so I suppose the two stories are being conflated). What on earth is the point of it? Have the showrunners just decided they're not doing any of Jorah's story going forward(except for kidnapping Tyrion) so they don't have anything for him to do, so they might as well give him a horrible disfiguring disease then kill him?

Really not happy (even though I knew he would inevitably die at some point).

Stuff that I did like - that eerie Valyria place (though shouldn't Jorah - and Tyrion - have known that's where people with greyscale get banished and thus that they should avoid it?) and Jorah and Tyrion seeing Dany's missing dragon.

I also liked the Missandei/Grey worm scene and the Missandei/Dany scene. Have to say, though, the Meereenese bloke (whose name I keep missing) looks a lot less than thrilled to be marrying Dany, and after seeing what happened to his fellow aristocrat, I can't say I blame him.

I'm not sure I have a lot else to say. Too many scenes featuring characters I dislike intensely. It says something about an episode when the most cheerful scenes featuring the nicest people all take place at the Wall.

Comments

[paratti.livejournal.com]

I think greyscale is what takes Dorne off the board, which is why they've kept it, so any J with it is alive until endgame.

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Hmm, maybe that's how GRRM plans to end the series? Everyone gets this horrid disease and dies.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

There was this sense that he was bringing in a plague to an already stressed situation.

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It would be a good way of killing off excess characters (though of course I don't regard Jorah as excess).

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

I've kind of thought that endgame is almost (and metaphorically) a battle of 'gods' And the wise the characters make it the more the suernatural/metaphorical take over hence the encroaching winter, famine, and plague with the God of Fire/lord of light. White walkers army of the icy dead. Plus the Baavosi God of Death. And the Children of the Forest/old gods.

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Are the lord of light and the god of death different gods? I'm confused.

[paratti.livejournal.com]

I think mainly Dorne, as it would otherwise be the only one mostly unscathed from something.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

I keep wondering if there is a non book twist in the Dorne plot to take the place of a missing character.

[paratti.livejournal.com]

Merger with a Sand Snake?

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Princes related to Doran. In the books there are 3 -/Quentin, Trystane, and (in a way) Griff. In the show there's 1

[paratti.livejournal.com]

They could always introduce Prince Not Appearing In This Series later or merger them. Esepcially if Mrycella gets prophecy fulfilled.

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I'm wondering if they're merging 2 into 1 or even perhaps 3 into 1)

[paratti.livejournal.com]

I think Griff may not be appearing in this version.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

I could see Griff being excised... Or Trystane being Griff. It would take knowing martins grand plan to know which option is preferable for the show.

[paratti.livejournal.com]

Plotwise he appeares to be a way of introducing an epidemic and an army to Dorne, to take it out. Basil Expositionwise,, JC gives the reader Rhaegar backstory. The show can use Jorah to Basil or can show us using Bran. Griff's expendible if they can get to the same end with less cast.