Lucifer season 2 episode 6-8
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shapinglightThis is, in part, the post I was going to make about Lucifer before the router went boom! Originally, it was just about episode 6. Now it includes things about episodes 7 and 8 as well.
Lucifer has pretty much become my happy/forget about the world place until they inevitably screw it up. I guess we all need one of those at the moment.
A-anyway, there was good news for us Lucifer fans a while back, when Fox ordered the so-called 'back nine,' giving season 2 of the show a full 22 episodes.
Yay!
Spoilers behind cut.
Or provisionally yay! anyway. I'm really pleased of course because it suggests my fears of cancellation were ill-founded and the show is doing well. On the other hand, I'm a little concerned (because I wouldn't be me if I didn't find some sort of dark cloud around the silver lining) that the show writers might only have had story for thirteen episodes and will end up struggling to find enough for these back nine.
Hopefully, they prepared for both scenarios, but we'll see.
As for the episodes, all three contain the usual chunks of boring/not very believable procedural stuff, (though this was enlivened a bit in episode 6 by the zombie wedding costumes and in seven by the sheer ridiculousness of it being the prison governor what done it), but were otherwise terrific episodes. In 6 and 8, it became even clearer that 'Mum' is up to something when she completely succeeded in turning Amenadiel against 'Dad,' and when she deliberately led humans to Azrael's buried dagger as a means of attracting 'Dad's' attention (so she said). Sadly, it becomes clearer and clearer that Maze is right about her and she's just evil.
I say sadly because I don't like the idea of there being two powerful celestial beings, one of whom is 'good' and one of whom is 'bad' and the bad one happens to be the female one. I do hope it'll turn out to be a little more nuanced than that, but we'll see.
In the meantime, the portrayal of 'Mum' reminds me somewhat (in as far as the show remind me of the comics at all) of Lilith in the comics, who is actually Mazikeen's mother, not Lucifer's. They're similar in their outlooks. 'Mum' hates humans because she thinks 'Dad' neglected her and her children for them, Lilith hates God so much she conspires with others to end his creation completely. The show story is a bit like a 'grounded' version of the comics story, which is the case elsewhere too.
One way in which the show differs wildly from the comics of course is in the depiction of Lucifer himself, here shown as increasingly identifying with humans - to the extent that he's prepared to defend them (or those he cares about anyway) from 'Mum', Amenadiel, Maze - whoever seems to be threatening them. Lucifer in the comics...well, he doesn't really do that, have to say.
His characterisation does lead to some great scenes in the show, though (IMO, obvs), both dramatic -as in him signally failing to cope with his grief and guilt over killing Uriel by acting out horribly and almost ruining his relationship with Chloe, then being able to comfort her when she needs comforting about the loss of her father - and in some great comic stuff - as in his hilarious attempt to be like Dan, right down to dressing and walking like him, which paradoxically leads to a sort of rapprochement between them. Best of all though, was his interaction with Dr Linda in the latest episode, now that she's (slightly, and only thanks to Maze) got over the shock of discovering that Lucifer was never speaking in metaphors. He really was being totally honest with her about being the Devil all along.
Oh, and the Dr Linda/Lucifer rapprochement gave the writers the chance to have a dig at Trump, which I enjoyed, even though I know they wrote the script before the election and when I heard Tom Ells say the lines, my instant reaction was, oh my God, they're going to get into so much trouble about this.
Such is the world we now live in.
Speaking of Dr Linda, I think her scenes in all three episodes were absolutely stellar. I love her. I also love that it was Maze who was able to bring her around to a provisional acceptance of who Lucifer and Maze really are. In fact I also love Maze this season (though I think she and Amenadiel have been underused in the last two episodes). I especially enjoy her weird house share with Chloe and her relationship with Trixie. The trick or treat scene in episode 6 was so funny.
So yes, I still love this show. I hope it won't let me down by getting really crap suddenly. I think we still have three episodes to go before they go on hiatus till the new year. I expect them to end on a horrible cliffhanger.
It's almost like the BtVS/AtS days all over again. ;)
In other TV news, I thought I'd missed three episodes of Amazon's The Collection because of having no internet, only to get online again and find it only had eight episodes and I've watched them all. That really did end on a cliffhanger. No idea whether there'll be a season 2. I still have five or six episodes of Luke Cage to get through on Netflix, assuming I can ever get it to work again (our internet connection is so unstable it keeps cutting out). There's nothing on actual TV to watch at all, except for Planet Earth II, which is utterly and completely wonderful.
Lucifer has pretty much become my happy/forget about the world place until they inevitably screw it up. I guess we all need one of those at the moment.
A-anyway, there was good news for us Lucifer fans a while back, when Fox ordered the so-called 'back nine,' giving season 2 of the show a full 22 episodes.
Yay!
Spoilers behind cut.
Or provisionally yay! anyway. I'm really pleased of course because it suggests my fears of cancellation were ill-founded and the show is doing well. On the other hand, I'm a little concerned (because I wouldn't be me if I didn't find some sort of dark cloud around the silver lining) that the show writers might only have had story for thirteen episodes and will end up struggling to find enough for these back nine.
Hopefully, they prepared for both scenarios, but we'll see.
As for the episodes, all three contain the usual chunks of boring/not very believable procedural stuff, (though this was enlivened a bit in episode 6 by the zombie wedding costumes and in seven by the sheer ridiculousness of it being the prison governor what done it), but were otherwise terrific episodes. In 6 and 8, it became even clearer that 'Mum' is up to something when she completely succeeded in turning Amenadiel against 'Dad,' and when she deliberately led humans to Azrael's buried dagger as a means of attracting 'Dad's' attention (so she said). Sadly, it becomes clearer and clearer that Maze is right about her and she's just evil.
I say sadly because I don't like the idea of there being two powerful celestial beings, one of whom is 'good' and one of whom is 'bad' and the bad one happens to be the female one. I do hope it'll turn out to be a little more nuanced than that, but we'll see.
In the meantime, the portrayal of 'Mum' reminds me somewhat (in as far as the show remind me of the comics at all) of Lilith in the comics, who is actually Mazikeen's mother, not Lucifer's. They're similar in their outlooks. 'Mum' hates humans because she thinks 'Dad' neglected her and her children for them, Lilith hates God so much she conspires with others to end his creation completely. The show story is a bit like a 'grounded' version of the comics story, which is the case elsewhere too.
One way in which the show differs wildly from the comics of course is in the depiction of Lucifer himself, here shown as increasingly identifying with humans - to the extent that he's prepared to defend them (or those he cares about anyway) from 'Mum', Amenadiel, Maze - whoever seems to be threatening them. Lucifer in the comics...well, he doesn't really do that, have to say.
His characterisation does lead to some great scenes in the show, though (IMO, obvs), both dramatic -as in him signally failing to cope with his grief and guilt over killing Uriel by acting out horribly and almost ruining his relationship with Chloe, then being able to comfort her when she needs comforting about the loss of her father - and in some great comic stuff - as in his hilarious attempt to be like Dan, right down to dressing and walking like him, which paradoxically leads to a sort of rapprochement between them. Best of all though, was his interaction with Dr Linda in the latest episode, now that she's (slightly, and only thanks to Maze) got over the shock of discovering that Lucifer was never speaking in metaphors. He really was being totally honest with her about being the Devil all along.
Oh, and the Dr Linda/Lucifer rapprochement gave the writers the chance to have a dig at Trump, which I enjoyed, even though I know they wrote the script before the election and when I heard Tom Ells say the lines, my instant reaction was, oh my God, they're going to get into so much trouble about this.
Such is the world we now live in.
Speaking of Dr Linda, I think her scenes in all three episodes were absolutely stellar. I love her. I also love that it was Maze who was able to bring her around to a provisional acceptance of who Lucifer and Maze really are. In fact I also love Maze this season (though I think she and Amenadiel have been underused in the last two episodes). I especially enjoy her weird house share with Chloe and her relationship with Trixie. The trick or treat scene in episode 6 was so funny.
So yes, I still love this show. I hope it won't let me down by getting really crap suddenly. I think we still have three episodes to go before they go on hiatus till the new year. I expect them to end on a horrible cliffhanger.
It's almost like the BtVS/AtS days all over again. ;)
In other TV news, I thought I'd missed three episodes of Amazon's The Collection because of having no internet, only to get online again and find it only had eight episodes and I've watched them all. That really did end on a cliffhanger. No idea whether there'll be a season 2. I still have five or six episodes of Luke Cage to get through on Netflix, assuming I can ever get it to work again (our internet connection is so unstable it keeps cutting out). There's nothing on actual TV to watch at all, except for Planet Earth II, which is utterly and completely wonderful.
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Date: 2016-11-17 11:00 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-11-18 03:07 pm (UTC)Anyway, I love it. Don't expect anyone else to, but I do. ;)
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Date: 2016-11-23 01:10 pm (UTC)They are definitely making much better use of Maze this season. In that way, her arc sorta kinda echoes Mazikeen in the comics, who in early issues is pretty much joined to Lucifer at the hip, but soon spins off to be very much the centre of her own storyline.