We're all doomed, but who cares? More Game of Thrones ramblings

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Trying to use a non-spoilery icon outside the cut, though it's not the icon I want to use.

More slightly shame-faced Game of Thrones 'shippy rambling behind cut, with spoilers obviously.



Okay, so you know the other day when I thought most people reading about my sudden Dany/Jorah love (she shouldn't have kissed him, damnit, and most of all, he shouldn't have gone on his knees to her) would be thinking ewww! he's old enough to be her father? Well, I'm sure there are people thinking that, but mostly -judging by all the icons I'm seeing, and all the comments about the pairing on game_thrones, I'm very far from alone. Far from being part of 'we happy few', I seem to be part of a major 'shipping group (in the show-based part of the fandom anyway). Weird.

I also don't seem to be the only one getting bromance-y/'shippy vibes off Bronn and Tyrion either. This is such fun! :Is a happy 'shipper.'

And that's despite having accidentally spoilered myself when, on ordering the first book in the series on Amazon (yes, like mrs_underhill, caliente_uk and coercion88, I am going to read the first book, and then try not to read the second until I've seen season 2), my eye skimmed over the blurb for the latest book - the one that comes out in about 2 weeks. Aargh! And then, if that wasn't bad enough, I followed a link (forget which one) and found all these character profiles (books characters, that is), and before I could tell myself not to look I'd read the Jorah Mormont one (can't help it if I read faster than I think, can I?). Oh well, I can't say I didn't know it would all end in tears, because I did.

But never mind. Until we get to that point I'm just going to enjoy it as much as I can.

I'm falling more and more in love with this show every day. Can you tell? I'm obsessively watching the two GoT fanvids I've saved to my memories over and over again and looking through every icon post seaching for the perfect icon for this character and that character, then seeing one I like even more and changing my mind. I'm even seriously thinking of deleting some of my BtVS icons to make room.

It must be serious.

Comments

[sueworld2003.livejournal.com]

"I'm even seriously thinking of deleting some of my BtVS icons to make room."

Oh dear. :0

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Yes, it's love.

[sueworld2003.livejournal.com]

How many of these novels are there?

[laisserais]

EEEE! First comes OTP, then comes fic! *hopes*

I can't say as Dany/Jorah does much for me, but I do fancy one-sided yearning!Jorah and indifferent, secretly powerful!Dany. mmmm.

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EEEE! First comes OTP, then comes fic! *hopes*

You never know, though I don't have any ideas yet.

but I do fancy one-sided yearning!Jorah and indifferent, secretly powerful!Dany. mmmm.

I don't think she's indifferent exactly, but it obviously isn't requited. I didn't realise I had a type. But apparently I do.

Plus, I've always fancied Iain Glen.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

I don't think she's indifferent exactly, but it obviously isn't requited.

Honestly, I don't think it's even that clear cut. Dany is totally confused. She totally tells herself that she's not interested at all... on the otherhand she hyper-reacts to him all the time. So... I can't even say, other than the actors will be great carrying this off.

[seadragonlady.livejournal.com]

"I am going to read the first book, and then try not to read the second until I've seen season 2),"


Oh yeah!! Welcome to the dark side youngster :)

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:)

It was bound to get me in the end.

[bogwitch.livejournal.com]

Ahhh. It's love!

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Yes, I think so.

I still do love Spike, though.

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

I always sort of spipped Dany and Jorah. I might have ranted about this in somewhere else, but the age differences do not bother me, especially in historical (or semi-historical) shows.

I might go off and rant more in my own LJ. :D

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I might have ranted about this in somewhere else, but the age differences do not bother me, especially in historical (or semi-historical) shows.

Well, I don't normally go for May/December-type relationships (or maybe I should say May/October in this case), but they don't bother me either, no matter which way round they are. I think it probably depends a lot on how the dynamic is initially set up, and I never got a fatherly-vibe from Jorah towards Dany in the show, so if that was what Iain Glen was going for, he failed miserably. :)

I might go off and rant more in my own LJ. :D

Ranting is very cathartic. And I do love that icon.

[brutti-ma-buoni.livejournal.com]

I've missed out on the TV, but will be interested in what you think of the book - so much of the flist is going GoT-frenzied there must be *something* in it...

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so much of the flist is going GoT-frenzied there must be *something* in it...

Ah, that rather suggests you don't think much of the books. To be honest, they don't really sound like my sort of thing. But I love the show to pieces so I can't help thinking there has to be something in them.

[brutti-ma-buoni.livejournal.com]

Sorry - meant to imply I have neither read nor watched any of it... But now intrigued by levels of flist interest. Also lots of twitterati sound addicted to the books, and the types I follow are not mostly fannish so I'm intrigued by that too!

[shadowkat67.livejournal.com]

While I can't say that I really "ship" any relationships in the series, at least not that seriously...will admit to liking about three. Dany/Jorah was definitely one of the three. The other two - I can't tell you about because they don't happen until the third book. The third book is by far my favorite of the series to date, it's also by far the longest. Apparently they are blending the second and third books for the second season of the tv show - which is good news. (It's a bit like the Wire - the best book is the third one in my opinion. Haven't read the fourth - so can't provide an opinion. I'm just slightly ahead of you. And I can't remember most of book 2.)

I don't remember Jorah kissing Dany this year? I must have missed that? Was that in the last episode or earlier?

The only fights I've seen in the fandom to date are over Catelynn Stark, Jamie Lannister, and Sansa. For some reason those three characters are a bit on the controversial side.

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While I can't say that I really "ship" any relationships in the series, at least not that seriously...will admit to liking about three. Dany/Jorah was definitely one of the three. The other two - I can't tell you about because they don't happen until the third book. The third book is by far my favorite of the series to date

Well, if I stick to my plan, I won't be reading that till 2013 (unless the show gets cancelled after season 2, which I hope it won't).

(It's a bit like the Wire - the best book is the third one in my opinion

I find it quite hard to pick a favourite season of The Wire. Season 5 is generally thought to be the weakest, and it probably is, but it's still brilliant IMO. Season 4 is probably the best season of television ever written. Seasons 1-3 are far more closely connected (though season 2 may not seem like it at first) than the two later seasons, though they are still all woven together like that big tapestry I talked about.

Didn't mean to start rambling on about The Wire. Sorry.

I don't remember Jorah kissing Dany this year? I must have missed that? Was that in the last episode or earlier?

He didn't kiss her. She kissed him on the cheek just before she walked into the fire. It was very bittersweet, because of course he loves her, but she doesn't feel the same way at all.

The only fights I've seen in the fandom to date are over Catelynn Stark, Jamie Lannister, and Sansa. For some reason those three characters are a bit on the controversial side.

I can see why Jaime might be controversial, but I don't really get the other two.

[flake-sake.livejournal.com]

I'm very interested in what you think of the book.

I'm not really shippy with GoT, though you could say I shipped Tyrion/Shae at some point. I guess it's more popular to ship doomed ships when there are no not doomed ones. :)

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I guess it's more popular to ship doomed ships when there are no not doomed ones. :)

:) I've even called this icon 'this 'ship is so doomed'. I may not be 'shippy for the books either. I wouldn't be surprised if any 'shipping that occurs springs from the show-only people.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Heh! This is true.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Dany/Jorah... with the chemistry they have on screen (which wasn't really there in the book), that part of ASoS is going to sing. I have great confidence that these two actors will make that stuff really work.

I was surprised that the show made it so clear so early. They've also made quite clear when he stopped because you see him receive a pardon before the assassination attempt in the show.

And I have to say, I don't think we've seen the last of Jorah in the books. It still feels quite unfinished to me. Nothing particularly permanent happened to him, and characters have a way of popping up again in unexpected ways.

And Re: You Tube clips, I liked this one: http://youtu.be/TB1XzPIFgcY

[shadowkat67.livejournal.com]

I agree - Jorah and Dany have a lot more chemistry in the tv series than in the books. I actually find Jorah more appealing and attractive in the tv series than in the books. He seemed craggier and darker in the books for some reason, also much older and bigger. That ship is going to sing in the series during season 2 and season 3. Big time.

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that part of ASoS is going to sing. I have great confidence that these two actors will make that stuff really work.

This makes me very happy. :squee:

They've also made quite clear when he stopped because you see him receive a pardon before the assassination attempt in the show.

I'm not quite sure I understand this. Stopped what? Do you mean stopped spying for Varys and switched his allegiance to Dany?

Nothing particularly permanent happened to him, and characters have a way of popping up again in unexpected ways.

Yes, I had gathered that when I accidentally spoilered myself. Am now wondering if the chemistry between the two actors will at all influence what GRRM decides to do with them in the books. Probably not, but you never know. As I said to shadowkat67 above, seeing your work filmed (as long as it's to your liking), can't help but affect you as an author, even if you don't intend it to.

I shan't hope for anything, though - just for some good stuff in the next season, and the one after if we're lucky enough to get it.

[caliente-uk.livejournal.com]

You're definitely not on your own with Dany/Jorah. There's no doubt about the chemistry between them, and I could see myself becoming shippy about them as the show continues. And it doesn't hurt that Iain Glen is so easy on the eye either! ;)

I'm also right there with you on Bronn and Tyrion! I've loved every scene they've had together so far, and think Jerome Flynn and Peter Dinklage are both perfect in the roles. And there's no doubt that they've both had the most humourous/funny lines on the show so far - and deliver them to perfection! Hmm...I might be just a little bit in love with this ship/bromance. *g*

I have a couple of book club books to read first, but then I'll be sinking my teeth into the first book of the series. I'm definitely stopping after the first one, though! I'm hoping my impatience to see what happens next doesn't get the better of me...

I still love BtVS/Spike, but my Buffyverse icons are becoming fewer and fewer with each passing day. I never thought the day would come when my Spike/Spuffy icons would be in the minority. I now have more Doctor Who, Vampire Diaries, True Blood and (of course) Game of Thrones icons than anything else.

I can definitely see myself becoming obsessed with GoT. There's just so much to love about it. And I can always tell when a show is starting to get to me when I start to obsess about particular characters. As much as I love a good plot, it's always the characters that hook me...

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There's no doubt about the chemistry between them, and I could see myself becoming shippy about them as the show continues. And it doesn't hurt that Iain Glen is so easy on the eye either! ;)

No, it doesn't Apparently, he's not much like Jorah is described in the books, where he's very hairy and has no neck. ;) Iain Glen, on the other hand, is definitely thinking woman's crumpet.

I'm also right there with you on Bronn and Tyrion! I've loved every scene they've had together so far, and think Jerome Flynn and Peter Dinklage are both perfect in the roles. And there's no doubt that they've both had the most humourous/funny lines on the show so far - and deliver them to perfection! Hmm...I might be just a little bit in love with this ship/bromance. *g*

Me too. They are wonderful together. I just love Jerome Flynn's deadpan delivery.

I'm definitely stopping after the first one, though! I'm hoping my impatience to see what happens next doesn't get the better of me...

Me too, though as I said I've managed to accidentally spoiler myself for a couple of very major things just by reading the blurb for the latest book. Plus I'm now spoilered about Dany and Jorah. Oh well.

I can definitely see myself becoming obsessed with GoT. There's just so much to love about it. And I can always tell when a show is starting to get to me when I start to obsess about particular characters. As much as I love a good plot, it's always the characters that hook me...

Same here. Since I have two LJs, and the other one is where most of my fanfic is posted, I may end up exiling most of my BtVS icons over there. I can't really see me writing GoT fanfic. For a start, GRRM has asked people not to do it, and somehow writing solely show based fanfic seems a bit pointless, since everything you write will have been comprehensively the GoT equivalent of Jossed already.