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shapinglightDid manage to watch this today, but haven't been able to find a moment to write a review till now, when I'm about to go to bed. Oh well.
Spoilers behind cut.
This episode had an oddly wistful quality in parts. There were various scenes where I found myself thinking, uh-oh, this is the last time these two are going to meet.
That was especially the case in the Theon/Yara scene, where Yara turning nice can only mean one thing, IMO - ie. that when this Bastard of Bolton character shows up something very nasty indeed will happen to Theon. I just hope they don't choose to make it too graphic.
The other wistful scene was the Dany/Jorah one, which, as you can imagine, I loved to bits, while at the same time thinking, it's all doomed to badness, isn't it? And I do hope the fact that Lord Varys is still getting updates on Dany's situation doesn't mean that Jorah is still spying on her. :(
Anyway, I hope they have a couple more scenes together before the end of the season, because I have nasty feeling that's it (or at least, that's it, until the books put them together again, if they ever do).
Elsewhere, Jon is still having a less than jolly time (and Sam is missing him terribly). Jaime Lannister isn't enjoying himself that much either, but at least it's not quite so chilly where he is.
The quarrel between Cat and Robb was upsetting. They were so close at the end of season 1. That said, I would much rather have more scenes between Robb and Cat than scenes between Robb and this Talisa woman. Have vaguely gathered that the character's generally not that well liked, and I can't say I like her either. Not that it bothers me in the slightest if Robb cries off his needs-must engagement with one of the charmless Frey clan, but as I've said in a previous review, I'm really not interested in his love life.
I'd far rather see him interact with his siblings, actually, especially because I'm beginning to wonder if the Stark children will ever meet each other again. I just hope that Bran and Rickon stay together, and that Maester Luwin and Osha carry on looking after them (though noticed the utterly useless direwolves have gone missing again - and still no sign of Ghost either).
Other scenes were more interesting - every scene featuring Arya, for instance (I shall miss her exchanges with Tywin), and the Tyrion/Bronn, Tyrion/Cersei, Tyrion/Varys scenes. I suppose Varys must have fed Cersei false information on purpose, about Ros being Tyrion's lover. Part of his power game - show Tyrion he can reveal his secret whenever he wants to.
Good episode (except for the Robb/Talisa scene, which went on too long). Things are building nicely to a head at last. I suppose Stannis will probably arrive at Kingslanding at the end of ep 9, and ep 10 (which I vaguely remember GRRM is writing) will feature some big battle or other. I expect it's too much to hope that Joffrey will get killed, but maybe 'Uncle' Stannis will get a turn at slapping him. Can't expect Bronn to do it every week.
Trivial stuff:
Jorah's speech about how he would remember Dany in the flames longer than he'll remember his own mother's face made me go all gooey.
I wonder who would win in a fight? Jaime or Brienne?
I wish we could get through one episode - just one - without any female nudity.
Speaking of nudity, there haven't been nearly enough naked men this season. What's that all about?
Not a good review, I'm afraid, but it's been a long day and I'm tired.
Spoilers behind cut.
This episode had an oddly wistful quality in parts. There were various scenes where I found myself thinking, uh-oh, this is the last time these two are going to meet.
That was especially the case in the Theon/Yara scene, where Yara turning nice can only mean one thing, IMO - ie. that when this Bastard of Bolton character shows up something very nasty indeed will happen to Theon. I just hope they don't choose to make it too graphic.
The other wistful scene was the Dany/Jorah one, which, as you can imagine, I loved to bits, while at the same time thinking, it's all doomed to badness, isn't it? And I do hope the fact that Lord Varys is still getting updates on Dany's situation doesn't mean that Jorah is still spying on her. :(
Anyway, I hope they have a couple more scenes together before the end of the season, because I have nasty feeling that's it (or at least, that's it, until the books put them together again, if they ever do).
Elsewhere, Jon is still having a less than jolly time (and Sam is missing him terribly). Jaime Lannister isn't enjoying himself that much either, but at least it's not quite so chilly where he is.
The quarrel between Cat and Robb was upsetting. They were so close at the end of season 1. That said, I would much rather have more scenes between Robb and Cat than scenes between Robb and this Talisa woman. Have vaguely gathered that the character's generally not that well liked, and I can't say I like her either. Not that it bothers me in the slightest if Robb cries off his needs-must engagement with one of the charmless Frey clan, but as I've said in a previous review, I'm really not interested in his love life.
I'd far rather see him interact with his siblings, actually, especially because I'm beginning to wonder if the Stark children will ever meet each other again. I just hope that Bran and Rickon stay together, and that Maester Luwin and Osha carry on looking after them (though noticed the utterly useless direwolves have gone missing again - and still no sign of Ghost either).
Other scenes were more interesting - every scene featuring Arya, for instance (I shall miss her exchanges with Tywin), and the Tyrion/Bronn, Tyrion/Cersei, Tyrion/Varys scenes. I suppose Varys must have fed Cersei false information on purpose, about Ros being Tyrion's lover. Part of his power game - show Tyrion he can reveal his secret whenever he wants to.
Good episode (except for the Robb/Talisa scene, which went on too long). Things are building nicely to a head at last. I suppose Stannis will probably arrive at Kingslanding at the end of ep 9, and ep 10 (which I vaguely remember GRRM is writing) will feature some big battle or other. I expect it's too much to hope that Joffrey will get killed, but maybe 'Uncle' Stannis will get a turn at slapping him. Can't expect Bronn to do it every week.
Trivial stuff:
Jorah's speech about how he would remember Dany in the flames longer than he'll remember his own mother's face made me go all gooey.
I wonder who would win in a fight? Jaime or Brienne?
I wish we could get through one episode - just one - without any female nudity.
Speaking of nudity, there haven't been nearly enough naked men this season. What's that all about?
Not a good review, I'm afraid, but it's been a long day and I'm tired.
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Date: 2012-05-21 11:18 pm (UTC)As for Robb and the Frey girl - that's what kings do, marry people they don't necessarily love because they need the alliances. That's what Robb's mother and father did, that's what Dany did, that's what just about every noble lord in Westeros did; he had to cross that river so he agreed to the marriage. I didn't feel bad for him, especially as I'm sure he intends for Arya to keep *that* part of the deal.
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Date: 2012-05-22 09:49 am (UTC)Wasn't there? It's all faded into a blur for me. Maybe I was thinking of Ygritte trying to get Jon to have sex with her?
Hmm, re: Jaime/Cat, I thought she gave her reason for releasing him to Karstark Snr last week. Not that it cut any ice with him, I suppose, which is why she let Jaime go. I am sad we won't get any more Cat/Brienne scenes, though.
As for Robb and the Frey girl - that's what kings do, marry people they don't necessarily love because they need the alliances.
Well, I don't remember him offering Talisa marriage, though I suppose we were meant to infer? As for the Frey marriage, if Robb were ever to be crowned king, he could probably make a better dynastic marriage than that anyway. Kings have been known to break off engagements if a better offer came along.
But really, I'm not bothered either way. The thing that interests me least about Robb is his love life. Quite possibly because he's not a POV character in the books, the life the show is trying to flesh out for him doesn't really work that well. I'd rather they'd concentrated on his relationships with his mother and siblings.
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Date: 2012-05-22 10:24 am (UTC)As for Robb, I didn't mean he'd offered to marry Talisa but that his whining about not wanting to marry a Frey girl irritated me. He made that promise because he needed to cross the Twins; reneging on a promise made to one's bannermen is kind of a big deal. Ned and Catelyn had an arranged marriage, after all. If he decides he'll keep Talisa as his mistress and marry the Frey girl I'm sure that's totally acceptable though. (I mean by Westeros standards.)
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Date: 2012-05-22 10:43 am (UTC)No, I know. Cat's reasoning was all inferred.
I doubt Robb's choice will feature either way. Too many other plot strands to deal with. I think that ep was probably a good example of how difficult this story is to bring to the TV screen.
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Date: 2012-05-22 02:37 pm (UTC)Alas, he's a Stark. ;)
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Date: 2012-05-22 02:41 pm (UTC)(I think the idea of this "romance" was to make me like Robb more but I actually like him less and less these days.)
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Date: 2012-05-22 02:52 pm (UTC)