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Did manage to watch this today, but haven't been able to find a moment to write a review till now, when I'm about to go to bed. Oh well.

Spoilers behind cut.



This episode had an oddly wistful quality in parts. There were various scenes where I found myself thinking, uh-oh, this is the last time these two are going to meet.

That was especially the case in the Theon/Yara scene, where Yara turning nice can only mean one thing, IMO - ie. that when this Bastard of Bolton character shows up something very nasty indeed will happen to Theon. I just hope they don't choose to make it too graphic.

The other wistful scene was the Dany/Jorah one, which, as you can imagine, I loved to bits, while at the same time thinking, it's all doomed to badness, isn't it? And I do hope the fact that Lord Varys is still getting updates on Dany's situation doesn't mean that Jorah is still spying on her. :(

Anyway, I hope they have a couple more scenes together before the end of the season, because I have nasty feeling that's it (or at least, that's it, until the books put them together again, if they ever do).

Elsewhere, Jon is still having a less than jolly time (and Sam is missing him terribly). Jaime Lannister isn't enjoying himself that much either, but at least it's not quite so chilly where he is.

The quarrel between Cat and Robb was upsetting. They were so close at the end of season 1. That said, I would much rather have more scenes between Robb and Cat than scenes between Robb and this Talisa woman. Have vaguely gathered that the character's generally not that well liked, and I can't say I like her either. Not that it bothers me in the slightest if Robb cries off his needs-must engagement with one of the charmless Frey clan, but as I've said in a previous review, I'm really not interested in his love life.

I'd far rather see him interact with his siblings, actually, especially because I'm beginning to wonder if the Stark children will ever meet each other again. I just hope that Bran and Rickon stay together, and that Maester Luwin and Osha carry on looking after them (though noticed the utterly useless direwolves have gone missing again - and still no sign of Ghost either).

Other scenes were more interesting - every scene featuring Arya, for instance (I shall miss her exchanges with Tywin), and the Tyrion/Bronn, Tyrion/Cersei, Tyrion/Varys scenes. I suppose Varys must have fed Cersei false information on purpose, about Ros being Tyrion's lover. Part of his power game - show Tyrion he can reveal his secret whenever he wants to.

Good episode (except for the Robb/Talisa scene, which went on too long). Things are building nicely to a head at last. I suppose Stannis will probably arrive at Kingslanding at the end of ep 9, and ep 10 (which I vaguely remember GRRM is writing) will feature some big battle or other. I expect it's too much to hope that Joffrey will get killed, but maybe 'Uncle' Stannis will get a turn at slapping him. Can't expect Bronn to do it every week.

Trivial stuff:

Jorah's speech about how he would remember Dany in the flames longer than he'll remember his own mother's face made me go all gooey.
I wonder who would win in a fight? Jaime or Brienne?
I wish we could get through one episode - just one - without any female nudity.
Speaking of nudity, there haven't been nearly enough naked men this season. What's that all about?

Not a good review, I'm afraid, but it's been a long day and I'm tired.

Date: 2012-05-22 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
Ros is basically standing in for Alayaya at this point (in the book Alayaya [I think that was it] was a prostitute. Tyrion didn't want Cersei knowing that he was visiting Shae and he didn't want her knowing about the Wildfyre, so Varys showed him secret passages beneath the whorehouse. Tyrion would go to Alayaya, but enter the passages to either go see Shae or work on business he didn't want Cersei to know about. In the book Cersei seized Alayaya the same way that Cersei seized Ros here. I don't remember exactly what happened though the scene was from Tyrion's POV and he was sincere about finding a way to extricate Alayaya from the situation he had unintentionally landed her in. Alayaya had always been an associate of Varys in the book. I don't know that they'll bother with why Ros remain silent other than she probably has a lot more trust of Tyrion than she does of Cersei and Joffrey, especially after what she saw of Joffrey. Of course Alayaya was never sent by Tyrion to be abused by Joffrey.

Basically, I suspect that the writers haven't thought through the ways they've slotted Ros into the plot. She's just shuffled in where is convenient. So right now, I'm just assuming she's playing out Alayaya's role.

As for Bronn they've deviated from his story. And his being somewhat popular I can see them wanting to give Bronn more story than he has from here on out in the novels.

In the novels, Sansa wasn't nearly gangraped. However Lollys was actually gang-raped. Lollys was from a titled family where all the male heirs had been killed. Lollys, never the brightest bulb in the box, was so incredibly traumatized by what had happened to her that she was barely functioning. Being pregnant with a bastard from a gang-rape did not help. And her mother was in a state of panic of "how will we survive?! Who will take care of us? Who will defend our estates?" Prior to the gang-rape Lolly's mom had been trying to convince Tyrion to marry Lollys. Tyrion was not at all interested in marriage. Anyway, long story short, it was arranged for Bronn to marry Lollys. That made him a landed, wealthy knight. He promised to raise Lolly's child as his. And Lolly's mother later sent a couple of missives that made it seem as though things were going along as well as such things could.

However, Lollys has been entirely erased from the plot on the show, so I don't know what their plans might be. I've wondered what they might do with him. Given how very little screen time has been given to Tyrion's squire, Podrick (Tyrion name dropped him once a few episodes ago and Cersei took note of Podrick this episode) I had wondered whether Bronn might be slotted for Podrick's role. They've really not given us any feel whatsoever for Podrick. So I wondered whether Bronn might assume that for the immediate time being (I don't know how Bronn would work for Podrick's future, though). On the other hand, I've also wonderd whether they might could use Bronn in place of Jaime's sparring partner (an out of the box solution, but it would keep Bronn more important than he was in the books). I don't know. It's not that Bronn's story is completely over at this point, or that Bronn's part from Book III is unworkable. But, he just doesn't have a great deal to do in the forseeable future so I wonder whether they might roll some other character's actions into him.

Edited Date: 2012-05-22 02:19 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-05-23 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com
I suspect that making him head of the gold cloaks is to serve basically the same purpose as marrying Lollys did... basically elevating him in the social structure and giving him a certain (minor) degree of position and power. Not enough to make him a player in the game, but enough that he now has something to lose.
Edited Date: 2012-05-23 02:18 pm (UTC)

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