Game of Thrones Season 6 Ep 5

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Just watched this and...

Spoilers



... firstly, yay! no boring Boltons! Secondly, they're killing off minor characters at a fairly steady rate this season, aren't they? But at least Hodor (not to mention Bran's direwolf, and there are now only two left of the entire litter) had an heroic end, unlike poor Osha. Thirdly, anyone else think it makes no sense for Jon, Sansa et al to leave Castle Black and ride south right into Ramsey's clutches?

No, I thought not.

And anyone else want to punch Littlefinger in the face for trying to poison the Sansa/Jon relationship?

Yeah, I thought as much (also, go, Sansa in that scene. I just wish she'd let Brienne kill Littlefinger).

Other random thoughts:

The Dany/Jorah scene made me quite tearful. I suspect it's their last. If so, at least he can die knowing she cares about him.

What the hell is Tyrion up to, inviting a bunch of religious nutters into Meereen? Mind you, Cersei did the exact same thing with the High Sparrow and his bunch of killjoys last season. Is it some kind of Lannister family failing?

Learning how the White Walkers were created, and the final big fight scene were awesome, but we still didn't learn what happened to Benjen Stark.

Nice Richard E Grant cameo in the Arya scene. I hope this is where she tells the Faceless God to eff off.

Sorry. Not a very good review, but better than nothing.

Comments

[kikimay]

anyone else think it makes no sense for Jon, Sansa et al to leave Castle Black and ride south right into Ramsey's clutches?

Literally the stupidiest thing I've ever seen so far. WTF? I'm glad you pointed that out, because I can understand the thinking process behind this decision.

Hodor's death was so sad and it was the greatest circular narrative ever, I love it! But I'm even more sad that Summer died. Idk if that's normal XD Poor puppy, he was so loyal and too pure for this ugly world!

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The direwolves have had a thin time of it lately. That's two gone in the last three episodes. I think it's just too much trouble wrangling the animals, or something.

As for the decision to go south while I can see - as someone points out below - that it's the only thing that can be done strategically, I also know that it inevitably means one of the Sansa/Jon party falling into Ramsey's clutches and being horribly put to death in front of everyone later in the season. That's just how GoT rolls. ;)

[tx-cronopio.livejournal.com]

As I said on my post, I like new Strong Sansa!

The rest of it? Pfui.

And OMG can I be anymore tired of Bran?

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We'll have to agree to disagree here. I've found Bran's story one of the best things about this season so far.

New Strong Sansa is great, but I really wish she'd told Jon the truth about Littlefinger.

[bogwitch.livejournal.com]

Are we supposed to know who these pixie people are?

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Only if we've read the books, I think. shipperx explained it to me once. They're supposed to be the original inhabitants of Westeros, who got displaced by humans. I think they're called the Children of...something or other. I've forgotten.

Agree we could have done with an explanation there - especially as Bran's story has been holding fire since season 4.

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Children of the Forest, that was it. They seem a bit fairy-like.

[beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com]

The reveal of Hodor's story really was heartbreaking, and I'm having a hard time seeing his end as very heroic, since he never really had a choice in the matter. Basically, Bran sacrificed Hodor's entire life to get him to the point where he would do this, even if Bran had no idea what he was doing. He'd better take a long hard look at himself next episode.

But yay white walkers! Go team! Loved the Aliens shoutout with the elf whatever woman and her grenade. So now we're down to... one direwolf, right? Unless Nymeria turns up again?

I'm really liking Sansa this season. Yes, giving up an army is not a good idea, but nothing good EVER came from allying oneself with Littlefinger, and Sansa knows that better than anyone.

Also, Joffrey got slapped! Twice!

[kikimay]

But Bran didn't even know! I mean, it was his fault and I hope he realizes that actions have consequences, but he couldn't know that messing up a trip could end up with such bad consequences.

I'll never understand why these "magical creatures" people can never explain things clearly as if: DUDE, IF YOU FUCK UP WITH THESE TRIPS YOU KILL PEOPLE. Why always so vague????

Yes, I also don't think it was something heroic. He never had a choice. He was just a victim, poor boy.

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You are of course quite right. Hodor's sacrifice is another thing altogether when you see it in that light. More like, he was sacrificed than that he sacrificed himself. :(

I still think he got a better final scene than Osha.

But yay white walkers! Go team!

Hee!

So now we're down to... one direwolf, right? Unless Nymeria turns up again?

Yes, that's right. If they want to make Ramsey's death (please this season, please) more of a production than just the tide of battle sweeps over him, squashes him and no one notices, my ideal scenario would be, Ramsey gets defeated in battle, runs off into the woods and is eaten by Nymeria. Seems apt.

I'm really liking Sansa this season. Yes, giving up an army is not a good idea, but nothing good EVER came from allying oneself with Littlefinger, and Sansa knows that better than anyone.

Very true. I just wish she had told Jon that instead of lying to him. I hate Littlefinger more than ever for sowing that seed of doubt in her. Also, I still don't get his motivation. It's like he just wants to cause chaos - a bit like Ethan Rayne but a lot less endearing.

Also, Joffrey got slapped! Twice!

Yes. Made me all nostalgic, that did.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Hodor. Poor Hodor. His entire life was a tragedy. A closed temporal loop of had to happen but so very very sad.

The Dany/Jorah scene was lovely


And Littlefinger needs to be repreatedly smashed in the face.

And Tormunds continued 'flirting' with Brienne was the ray of sunshine in a scary, tragic episode.

Hodor.

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The Dany/Jorah scene was lovely.

It was, wasn't it? :Sniffle:

And Littlefinger needs to be repreatedly smashed in the face.

Maybe he and Ramsey can kill each other? I'd be fine with that.

Hodor.

Waah!

[ningloreth.livejournal.com]

I have to say, I did like the cheeky 'Oi, you all complain about female nudity -- here's a totally gratuitous full-screen cock!' scene.

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Heh! Yes. In fact, I enjoyed that entire scene. Hilarious to see Richard E Grant is still a luvvie, even in Westeros. :)

[orangerful.livejournal.com]

YES and YES and YES!

Though I have to say I was underwhelmed by the White Walker reveal. It just left too many questions for me - like who was the guy they sacrificed? Why would you make a monster that you couldn't control? What the hell did you shove inside of him anyway? How did you know that would work? Why do the White Walkers make Zombies and not more White Walkers? And if you could create grenade fire things out of thin air, why did you need White Walkers to fight humans? What were the humans doing? How many where there??!?!?!

So, yeah, either I need a lot of flashback episodes or I'm going to be perpetually annoyed by this. Does anyone know if Martin got this far in the books at all? I just don't feel like it adds up.

[lizziebuffy2008.livejournal.com]

She put dragon glass (I believe) inside him, which if I remember correctly kills them now.

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Does anyone know if Martin got this far in the books at all? I just don't feel like it adds up.

I have no idea whether he's ever stated how the White Walkers came into existence, but I know he's had all this mythology with the Children of the Forest (the fairy-like people who created the White Walkers in the show) fighting the First Men and the Andals, etc, etc.

I guess it doesn't really matter who the guy who got a flint through his heart is. Random Victim. It's no wonder he's a bit peeved, though.

Re: why the White Walkers create zombies, not more White Walkers, that isn't strictly true. We saw last season that they were changing Craster's infants sons that he was leaving in the forest for them into White Walkers. Maybe they can only do it with babies?

If most of the current White Walkers are actually Craster's sons by incest, it's no wonder they're so cranky. ;)

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

I think the law of unintended consequences is a GoT theme. From Ned giving Cersei a heads up that he'd have her arrested (an honorable act with catastrophic consequences), to Catelyn arresting Tyrion for the 'attempted murder' of Bran ( which led to unanticipated consequences), to Robb marrying 'for love' (which led to horrific consequences) to Tywin, on and on including Littlefinger selling Sansa to the Boltons. Pretty sure that Cersei creating FrankenMountain will lead to bad things as well. Everyone seems to suffer from a lack of imagination. Apparently the Children didn't think 'what if the monster of mass destruction we create turns on us'. After all man is still here, the wights are still here. The Children? Not so much.

[ex_peasant441]

What's wrong with Jon and Sansa taking the fight to Ramsey? Sitting safely in Castle Black won't get rid of him. Also the Night's Watch might get pissed off with having them hanging around as perpetual guests - I bet they've not been helping with the washing up.

[kerry-220.livejournal.com]

And he does have their little brother in the dungeons. I'd have thought that was enough reason

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Well, for one thing, when they bump into Ramsey before they can ally themselves with Sansa's uncle (which is pretty inevitable, IMO) he's bound to capture one of them (probably the most expendable one, which I suspect is poor Podric) and horribly torture and kill them in front of the others. And I really don't want to see that. :(

[chasingdemons.livejournal.com]

Despite many plot holes, I'm loving this. I guess I don't need everything to make sense. The final scene with Hodor was devastating though. I found it odd that one person was so easily sacrificed so another could stay alive.

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I don't know if it was easily. Bran didn't really know what he was doing, I suppose.

Anyway, like you I'm enjoying this season very much. It's like having to make stuff up rather than sticking to the books has liberated the show and given it more focus.

Now if only we can get shot of Ramsey...

[sibilant.livejournal.com]

Sorry, that anonymous comment was me. My pc's on the blink, so used my tablet, on which I am less than expert.

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:(

It does look like Dany's plot is finally on the move. I am quite interested in what she'll think when she gets back to Meereen and discovers what alliances Tyrion has made in her absence.