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Okay, there's clearly something wrong with me.

Not only was I not particularly upset by the scene in GoT that's upset so many other people, but I also enjoyed the Buffy comic.

:sigh:

I think this house renovation business has had a bad effect my brain. :(

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[shadowkat67.livejournal.com]

Probably helped that you hadn't read the book (Storm of Swords)? And Jamie wasn't one of your favorite characters?

This was sort of equivalent to the Seeing Red for Jamie fans.

In the book, Jamie has just returned to King's Landing. He's just discovered his son died. He comes to comfort Cersei. They seek comfort in each others' arms, but it leaves both feeling unfulfilled and disturbed. It is a cleverly written sequence, that is complex and lends insight to both characters. We are also in Jamie's pov.

The scene in the show - was in comparison (sigh) a tv cliche. Nasty female character gets raped, makes her more sympathetic. (It's a trend right now.) In the books - Robert B may have raped Cersei, or so it is implied, during their past. So rape is there. But in flashback. And never with Jamie. Jamie, it is made clear in the books - would never rape a woman.

So...remember how you felt about Spike attempting to rape Buffy in Seeing Red? Well...

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And Jamie wasn't one of your favorite characters?

I do like Jaime quite a bit, actually, but that's down to his scenes last season with Brienne. Before that, he was just a git. Now, he's a complex git. Really, the scene hasn't changed anything for me. I still find him interesting.

I do understand why people are upset, though.

FWIW, I don't think it made Cersei more sympathetic. I think what made her more sympathetic was the scene beforehand with Tywin lecturing Tommen on what it takes to be a good king while Joffrey's body was lying in state. It was plain as plain that Cersei was the only person who mourned him and that she was hurt by it.

[caliente-uk.livejournal.com]

I do like Jaime quite a bit, actually, but that's down to his scenes last season with Brienne. Before that, he was just a git. Now, he's a complex git. Really, the scene hasn't changed anything for me. I still find him interesting.

That's pretty much how I feel, too, after finally seeing the scene in question. I was expecting it to be much worse than it actually was after the huge backlash I'd seen on Twitter, etc. I'm not happy that they decided to change it from how it happened in the books, and I still have huge sympathy for fans of book!Jaime, but it hasn't changed my opinion of him at all. As you say, he is a very complex, f**ked up character, and I'm intrigued to find out where his story will take him next.

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I do think it's best not to get too invested in any of these characters. It's safest.

Having said which, I'm quite invested in Dany and Tyrion still, but I think they may well survive the story.