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[shapinglight]

Okay, there's clearly something wrong with me.

Not only was I not particularly upset by the scene in GoT that's upset so many other people, but I also enjoyed the Buffy comic.

:sigh:

I think this house renovation business has had a bad effect my brain. :(

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[mrs-underhill.livejournal.com]

I wasn't upset by that GOT scene either, but then Jaimie is not my favorite character. I also didn't think it was rape, I had the impression Sersei meant "yes" in the end.

I don't know why they changed the scene from the book. I don't like when they show "no mean yes" situations. But GoT had scenes which were so much worse. Like what Jeoffrey did to those whores, or disgusting scenes with Theon and Bolton's women seducing him.

As for Jaimie - we were shown how he went back for Brienne, and how he made up sapphire stories because he couldn't stand the thought of her being raped.

With Sersei he acted out on her demanding that he'd kill Tyrion, and pushing him away at the same time. It was more like making her pay for his service with sex, and he knew that she would give it to him and despised her for it, and she knew that she would give it to him too, that she needed to, and hated it.

But it wasn't rape. It was twisted and nasty, and was awful from Jaimie, but still wasn't rape because she was ready to do it in the end. Not because Jaimie forced her into sex. But because he forced the issue that if she wants something as deprived as killing his brother from him, she had to have sex with him, and feel like crap because of it. And she was ready to do it, but she just thought that Jaimie would still love her enough and pity her enough not to force that issue. But he did...

I'm sure it's the last time they had sex, and that it was their breakup.

As for character assasinations - well, what Martin did to Tyrion in the books pretty much ruined him for me. Seems like the show is steering away from that particular nastiness. So you lose some and you get some... And I'm still not over what the show did to Loras, so I can sympathize. But I don't think this scene will ruin Jaimie in the show.

[shapinglight]

I don't know why they changed the scene from the book. I don't like when they show "no mean yes" situations. But GoT had scenes which were so much worse. Like what Jeoffrey did to those whores, or disgusting scenes with Theon and Bolton's women seducing him.

I agree entirely. I also agree with your interpretation of the scene, which is probably what the director was going for.

[spikesjojo.livejournal.com]

Funny, I have no problems with what Tyrion does in the books - in the context of the books. I just have no idea how they can play it because of changes in the show. Not wanting to get spoilery but the reasons behind his actions have barely been touched on.